Flipper: Yes this really is great news, since it will help to many to see the real truth.
wasblind: Dont forget on cutting back on magazine production
Albert
here in czech republic wtbs opened new bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago.
it was presented as a proof jhvh is blessing and aproving wtbs and of course as a sign that the end is so close.... recently i had with my mil discusions about wtbs selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... she did not believe me..... last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that bethel is closing down and the building will be sold.
only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to slovakia.. recently there is bethel closing down in spain and italy and several assembly halls being sold here in europe.. i hope this will open eyes to many jw to see the gb in fact does not believe in end being so close .... albert.
Flipper: Yes this really is great news, since it will help to many to see the real truth.
wasblind: Dont forget on cutting back on magazine production
Albert
here in czech republic wtbs opened new bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago.
it was presented as a proof jhvh is blessing and aproving wtbs and of course as a sign that the end is so close.... recently i had with my mil discusions about wtbs selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... she did not believe me..... last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that bethel is closing down and the building will be sold.
only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to slovakia.. recently there is bethel closing down in spain and italy and several assembly halls being sold here in europe.. i hope this will open eyes to many jw to see the gb in fact does not believe in end being so close .... albert.
What will be with brothers and sisters who worked there?
Iam sure they will make some "special pioneers" for at least one year, to keep them quiet and have the change smooth...
All of them are potential apostates.
Veru true... BTW czech Bethel did produce a great number of high quality apostates... maybe that was one reason for closing down...
Albert
here in czech republic wtbs opened new bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago.
it was presented as a proof jhvh is blessing and aproving wtbs and of course as a sign that the end is so close.... recently i had with my mil discusions about wtbs selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... she did not believe me..... last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that bethel is closing down and the building will be sold.
only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to slovakia.. recently there is bethel closing down in spain and italy and several assembly halls being sold here in europe.. i hope this will open eyes to many jw to see the gb in fact does not believe in end being so close .... albert.
JWWoods: She is a hardcore JW, but now she gets many questions from me she cannot answer, so she has to think about it... The other day she was telling me it must be the Truth, if there is such increase ... So I just pulled two latest yearbooks from her library and read her statistics for Europe - it is all about -1% or 0% ... She looked like she did not see it before...
WW - I see your avatar has a new haircut... Why the change?
Albert
here in czech republic wtbs opened new bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago.
it was presented as a proof jhvh is blessing and aproving wtbs and of course as a sign that the end is so close.... recently i had with my mil discusions about wtbs selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... she did not believe me..... last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that bethel is closing down and the building will be sold.
only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to slovakia.. recently there is bethel closing down in spain and italy and several assembly halls being sold here in europe.. i hope this will open eyes to many jw to see the gb in fact does not believe in end being so close .... albert.
I have no Idea. Probably Croatia or Germany.
He is a good guy by the way. He came over here to settle down problems with the troublemaking branch coordinators. 3 of them were deleted in 2002 and WTBS obviously did not trust locals anymore, so they rather sent here a foreigner...
Albert
here in czech republic wtbs opened new bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago.
it was presented as a proof jhvh is blessing and aproving wtbs and of course as a sign that the end is so close.... recently i had with my mil discusions about wtbs selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... she did not believe me..... last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that bethel is closing down and the building will be sold.
only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to slovakia.. recently there is bethel closing down in spain and italy and several assembly halls being sold here in europe.. i hope this will open eyes to many jw to see the gb in fact does not believe in end being so close .... albert.
Here in Czech republic WTBS opened new Bethel home for some 60 workers about 18 years ago. It was presented as a proof JHVH is blessing and aproving WTBS and of course as a sign that the end is so close...
Recently I had with my MIL discusions about WTBS selling their property in many countries and cuting costs... She did not believe me....
Last week we went to visit her and she told me there was an anouncment at her meeting, that Bethel is closing down and the building will be sold. Only translating department will remain in the country in other premises and everything else will be moved to Slovakia.
Recently there is Bethel closing down in Spain and Italy and several assembly halls being sold here in Europe.
I hope this will open eyes to many JW to see the GB in fact does not believe in end being so close ...
Albert
iam happily out for more than a year, my jw wife is basicly out as well - she didnt attend last 2 assemblies and didnt go to a meeting for about 4 months.... my wife s family is all in and very zealous.
when visiting my mil, we avoid jw issues, but she usually pops up some topic.. last time she disagred, when i said, that wt encourages shunning within the family.
(we live in central europe, and here really most jw do not shun df/da family members, general rule is just to avoid "spiritual discussions" with them).
Thank you very much Blondie, thats exactly what I needed! I wish I could take you out for a coffee some day - but its just to far...!
Bonnie+Clyde - thats also a great quote, thanks!
Albert
(2 kings 2:19-25) .
19 in time the men of the city said to e?lisha: here, now, the situation of the city is good, just as my master is seeing; but the water is bad, and the land is causing miscarriages.. 20 at that he said: fetch me a small new bowl and put salt in it.
so they fetched it for him.
Hi Bohm,
Some time ago, I was a member of a cult, that insisted this did really happen. At one meeting the speaker did explain, that this action was necessary to glorify Jehovahs name and we should not be sorry for anybody executed by Jehovah. All cult memebers did agree with this explanation, so it must be true.
Albert
iam happily out for more than a year, my jw wife is basicly out as well - she didnt attend last 2 assemblies and didnt go to a meeting for about 4 months.... my wife s family is all in and very zealous.
when visiting my mil, we avoid jw issues, but she usually pops up some topic.. last time she disagred, when i said, that wt encourages shunning within the family.
(we live in central europe, and here really most jw do not shun df/da family members, general rule is just to avoid "spiritual discussions" with them).
Hi,
Iam happily out for more than a year, my JW wife is basicly out as well - she didnt attend last 2 assemblies and didnt go to a meeting for about 4 months...
My wife´s family is all in and very zealous. When visiting my MIL, we avoid JW issues, but she usually pops up some topic.
Last time she disagred, when I said, that WT encourages shunning within the family. (We live in central Europe, and here really most JW do not shun DF/DA family members, general rule is just to avoid "spiritual discussions" with them)
When I told her, local JW are just not strict in that issue, but WT teaches you should shun even within the family, she said its not possible and I promised I will bring some WT quotations next time.
Since I do not have WT Library in English available, does anybody know about WT quotes, saying you should shun even family member if they are DF / DA?
Thanks for help.
Albert
even when i was a kid i thought that forever was too long.
i thought it may get boring.
especially when they said we'd stop eating meat.
being married to one guy for millions of years was depressing
Why so short serenity?
In fact you as a surviving JW would be married and live for trillions of trilliions years... If universe exists just 15 000 000 000 years, you would live billions and billins times longer...
As for me me - when I was an active JW I didnt think abóut it in detail. Today I see it would be a nightmare to live forever and ever... Its not a thousand or a million year - its forever, you are traped in your life and you cannot escape it.
As for me now - I got used to the idea I will die one day. As billions of people have died before me. As billiions of animals have died before me. As billions of people will die after me. Not a big deal, you get used to it.
If I was to live forever, I would like to have a hope to upgrade one day to a higher level of life in another world or reality (you can call it Haeven or Nirvana or whatever...)
Albert
titus, you today made a statement regarding an essential wt doctrine: .
i am an active jw.. can i tell you what that doctrine is?.
bullshit!.
Titus, you surprise us every day...
Cant wait what you will come up with tomorrow...
Albert